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Moon Chase, in my mind, is SOS 2.0. Like SOS of days past, they claim to have various connections with companies involved with Sailor Moon, making various articles with no tangible sources, and operate in similar ways that SOS did. While they do post some interesting reads and good news at times (also like SOS), a lot of bullshit seems to come from them too. Helping my claim is seeing one alais listed as a past or present member of SOS as well as the main reporter (if you want to call it reporting) for Moon Chase. So yeah, SOS 2.0. I have been wary of this site since late Summer 2010 for various reasons, and between the reasons I had before, claims in the recent few months, and even me being banned from viewing the site, I figured it was time to bring back an SMU tradition. We've upgraded Anti-SOS to bring you Anti-Moon Chase! While this log officially went online on 4/16/2011, I will still cover events involving them from all of April 2011 before this went online, and obviously anything I deem worthy following. Like the old Anti-SOS section, I don't aim to bring up things from before, but there may be exceptions.
04/26/11 - In an unexpected course of events, it would appear that my theories of Moon Chase not getting back communication from companies are actually incorrect. In an update they made as I worked through the night and morning, they actually posted images of a few e-mails to prove this. My biggest complaint about this site was their claims of "being in the know" yet failing to show any evidence whatsoever to this. The purpose of this section was to either (1) inform people of what I then thought to be them lying about such claims, or (2) give myself (and potentially others who might be as skeptical as myself) some sort of evidence as to why myself (and others) should believe source-less information. And it looks like scenario #2 has actually occurred. Given that the images clearly state to not use outside of their site without written permission, I will not link to these images and ask anyone curious to see them to go to Moon Chase and see for yourself. So now I will publicly apologize, as it is the right thing to do.
I am sorry for the trouble this section has apparently caused within your site. I was clearly wrong in the assumptions I had made, as with what you have showed everyone with your latest (as of this typing) update, it is apparent that representatives from a couple of companies actually have contacted back with you to some extent. I do hope that you can at least understand where my skepticism came from, and I do appreciate that you have provided evidence to put a lot of that to rest.
Before I put this section in the attic of SMU, there are a couple things in this update that I do feel the need to address.
I will admit that those screencaps being made and posted was probably not the best choice I made, as few of said comments were actually made by your site itself. I do think it is unfair to ban everyone from that page, and hope that you choose to bring it back online for those who wish to use it.
You already seem to have my IP, and honestly, I have no interest in joining your forums. So there's no need to restrict access so tightly. As I have stated before, I have been working alone in this section. No one has been involved besides me. There is no need for you to have people jump through hoops because of one person. I have only made two comments in your blog, and that's all I ever plan to do. I respectfully request that you remove all bans from viewing your site, since you advertise yourself as a news site, and should not restrict people from viewing said news. User-submitted content, whatever you feel is right, but I don't see the point in banning people from viewing your site. If anything, I feel that such banning detracts people from your site and potentially causes ill-will feelings for those who are going to your site for the first time and cannot view it. I do not feel that banning people who state different opinions than you is a good decision. My skepticism might have been the fuel for this section, but you banning me from even just viewing your site was the catalyst for me to actually create this section. I have no issue putting this section to rest now that I have seen proof of actual contact, but will not do so until anyone can view your site without any issues. I don't agree with you banning people from making comments for opinions that don't match your own, but I see absolutely no justification for banning people from simply viewing your site. Granted, I will have a lot less things to update here, but I do not feel right taking this section off the front page as you restrict people from simply reading your site.
Once again, I appreciate the posting of these images, and do understand why there are black bars where you chose to put them. I will also not post them on here due to your request stated in your update and on the images themselves. But I already stated this at the beginning of this article. Why I'm quoting this section, is you wanting to know where I live for some reason. I'll save you the trouble of tracing it, you can even find my area mentioned here on this site already, the only thing not up to date in that blurb is my current place of employment, maybe I'll update that sometime this week. In any case, I don't see why where I live even matters, but if you trace my IP as seen on those two comments on the blog from the beginning of the month, it will route to Syracuse, NY. That is where my ISP's local office is located. I do not live in the city of Syracuse, I live in a town about 10 minutes north of it called Clay. I won't go as far as telling you my street address or anything more detailed than what I have mentioned. I don't see why you care about my physical location. You should really state why that has anything to do with anything. But anyways, if you did used to live in or around this town and plan to come back at any point, I'm more than willing to buy you a drink or two, or a coffee if you don't drink, or whatever you'd like to accept as a gesture of good-will. I'm not a bad guy and willing to admit being wrong, and am happy to have a chance to make amends like that should the opportunity present itself. So if you're in the area, feel free to get a hold of me to take me up on the offer, and we'll figure something out with our schedules. And that's all I can think of to say to Moon Chase. So now I'll address fans of Moon Chase who I had previously dubbed the crusaders. Though some of this can also apply to Moon Chase members as well. First off, I would like to apologize for using your comments the way that I did in my previous article. Like I stated above, that was not a wise choice I made in this section. I would also like to ask to not blindly hate me over it. What I mean by that is not asking y'all to suddenly be fans of me by any means, I definitely don't expect any dislike for me to end. But I have noticed that people have made various assumptions of myself and my intentions with this section. I've already made them clear multiple times and have stuck to them, and I've kept all my comments here on this site. I'm expecting to see a fair amount of comments about me following this article. And I'd be silly to think that suddenly I would be in y'all's good graces, so to speak. I'm sure to see comments of how I was "forced to back down" and similar ones, citing that this was a "loss" for me. This couldn't be further from the truth. I decide what I do and where I do it at any given time, no one forces me to do or not do anything. My opinions might strong and controversial, but I am man enough to admit when I have been wrong, in which I have been proven so seeing that there is actual conversations between companies and Moon Chase. And here is me admitting it and apologizing for the confusion in that. Keep on disliking me if you want after this ordeal, that's your opinion and I respect that. As for those who may claim this is a "loss" of sorts, I disagree. First off, I still see this whole things as a disagreement of opinions, with no actual fights of any sort. Being that there was no actual fight, I don't see how "victories" or "losses" exist here. However, I am happy with how things have turned out, seeing such evidence as I have today. I didn't expect a good amount of people to care so much about my personal opinion, but because of this, a lot of skepticism can be put to rest. And I don't see how anyone can consider that a bad thing. Ok, the ride might have been a bit bumpy, but we reached a good ending.
04/25/11 - So Moon Chase hasn't posted articles that raise an eyebrow with claims that usually would fuel this section, and this is a good thing. However, some comments on their facebook page made by either them or people who feel the need to report any negative thing said about them to them (I think I'll refer to these people as their crusaders from now on), have caught my attention. I'm not banned from viewing their facebook page, but I expect that soon after this article going online that they will make it so only people who like the page can see anything posted on it. So I'm going to enjoy this small window of time where I can easily access this page, and blur out all names and pictures not signed by Moon Chase. This blurb I was actually going to ignore initially since it started out not dealing with false claims and such that would normally spark a reaction from me. But then someone felt the need to mention me, which I find hilarious. So I guess I won't ignore it after all.
So there was an article on about.com that had a short interview with someone from Kodansha USA, that pretty much confirmed everything I had assumed about the release from the PR and item postings with descriptions, the only new information from that in my opinion being that there will be a lack of stickers for our release. Someone was nice enough to inform Moon Chase of this and linked it on their facebook page for them. And I have to chuckle some at Moon Chase's response. For a group who supposedly has constant communication with companies as they themselves claim, you would think that this information that the interview provided would have already been well known by them, and that an article with such information would have already been online. Yet they claim that the person there hadn't gotten back to them yet. Once again, I believe that they reached out to Kodansha USA with questions, and them saying right there that a response has not been received makes me feel that my claims that they don't have as good connections with companies as they say hold even more water. This weekend at Anime Boston, Funimation stated that the Sailor Moon license is currently unavailable. Moon Chase commented that we might be further down the line since it's happening gradually. I think I made my feelings known in my last article about how it's ridiculous to even have a thought of a revival taking place at the same time worldwide. I'll just add that I would like to see proof of any IP launching (or relaunching) simultaneously everywhere in the world. If someone can give me such proof, I will gladly take back my comments on how thinking that such a feat is impossible. My beef with this screencap is one person hoping he didn't cause it. Who are you, and what could you have possibly done to impact big decisions like this at a big company in Toei? It's a ridiculous claim, and more ridiculous that Moon Chase said they took care of those rumors. Did I happen to miss some rumors somewhere? Anyway, then the guy decides to say that he hopes SMU didn't cause this. What? How does this site have anything to do with anything in regards to official Sailor Moon business? The closest this site comes to that is posting news that can be confirmed by official sources. No one here has ever claimed to be involved with any companies (closest was an interview we were able to do early in SMU's life), and in my editorial filled with my hopes for a revival here, I clearly state that I'm not involved with any companies and that the entire piece is my opinion. If you don't like this site and/or my opinions that I post here, that's fine, I don't expect everyone that comes here to just agree with everything that's said here. But there's no need to spread rumors of things that clearly don't exist here. Read this editorial Bob wrote in April 2002 about disliking versus hating. You are turning your dislike for here into blind hatred. We here at SMU are dislikers, not haters. I don't hate Moon Chase, I dislike a fair amount of what they do. I will end this article quoting from near the end of the linked editorial: "But is it wrong to dislike us? As I said above, no way. We know our site [SMU] is not perfect. Me [Bob] and Dan have been talking recently about how there are a lot of mistakes, inaccuracies, and outdated facts at the site that we've been trying to weed out. If you have a reason to, dislike us all you want, however, being a hater is much different. If you hate us, please have a reason to before joining the crowd, it'll do us all a favor ~_^."
04/16/11 - So the talk of this week has been about the possibility of Naoko Takeuchi herself preventing any possible redubs in the global revival. Of course, this was started by Moon Chase, citing SOS Brazil, which makes me laugh. Here we have what is SOS 2.0 by all means, quoting an extension of the original SOS. Now, I don't speak the language, so I'll admit I can't really comment much on the article. I'll just say that I find it odd that someone working at a local (to Brazil) DVD production company to have such big global information such as that. I'm not denying the possibility that Brazil was not allowed to have a redub, as that appears to be the case for whatever the reason. Seeing that news of this magnitude is usually covered pretty well by other news sites. How is this a qualified source for international news? Also, and please correct me with proof if I am wrong, not one manga-ka has any licensing control of their animated works. So I find it odd that we're literally watching history unfold if Naoko suddenly got that sort of control over the anime, as she would be the first. Wouldn't this be making headlines all over if true? Not just your site? So that's my opinion on the article, that it has no legs outside Brazil. In the comments on the blog, one of the staff members at Moon Chase decided to add some more comments, which is almost more noteworthy to me than the original article that was posted. Here's the comment with my section breakdown:
Because you clearly are the only bridge between the fans and companies...
I doubt you had heard anything from companies themselves (you've already been proven to have failed on that claim with Funimation at the start of the month), but there is no way for me to prove or disprove that, so I'll go on. However, it's pretty obvious that with a global revival, it would be impossible for every market to launch a the same time. That's just pure logic. No one, single company directly controlled the franchise in every market. Of course it is going to be a gradual revival, it would be stupid to expect otherwise. Logic dictates that a revival would happening in waves. It's just not possible to approve every market at the same exact time. This is not news. And if companies really don't like the rumors, how about you guys stop pretending to speak for them? Companies have, and always will, be able to speak for themselves. Hell, it's so much easier for them to do that nowadays. You claiming to have such connections with them are the rumors, because any actual news that comes about has sources.
Of course the old remnants of the original dub still exist. People have questioned about if it's worth a potential new licensee to purchase the old materials or not, not so much if they're available. Companies don't just destroy their old work when they go out of business, or get bought, etc. Very few things are unrecoverable, something less than 20 years old has a near zero chance of disappearing.
So now you want to cite court battles? Maybe I'm crazy, but I have been reading a lot of articles in regards to legal battles in the anime industry worldwide. Not just the US, the entire world. And you expect people to believe that court battles have taken place over one of the biggest anime/manga IPs without any sort of mention anywhere else? What I find most funny is that you use the phrase "if we could speak about..." because you actually ARE! If you couldn't speak of something, assuming you have actual information to speak of that is, then YOU CAN'T MAKE ANY MENTION OF THAT INFORMATION. Hypothetically, if what you say is true and I worked in the legal department for one of these companies you are so in touch with, I would be coming after you for breach of contract confidentiality clauses of sorts for even hinting that you have information. Given your claims of having information and giving hints as to what it is even though you can't say, your site would have already been shut down.
I'm not going to argue about the level of control Naoko does or doesn't have, because it's moot, since she doesn't with the anime. If Naoko wishes to make a press release, she can, there's no need for a PR department for a company to make a press release.
The last time I left a comment stating an opinion that wasn't yours (that wasn't even heated I felt, especially compared to a lot of the other ones), you banned my IP. So I can't comment, and would rather use this section as my own personal comment page. At least I won't be in danger of my thoughts being altered and deleted on my own site. You've actually made me ask more questions, and failed to answer the one I did have about credible sources for your information on the original article. Maybe next time....
04/10/11 - So even though shit eventually died down, some things did happen after my initial posting, but never really got talked about for whatever reason. So to clear up everything in every step of the journey, I decided to highlight everything from how I saw it. I'm going to do this as an exercise that is done in elementary school, to help children learn the differences between facts and opinions. (I really did write this last weekend in preparation for this new section, I just failed to get the section up soon after) So without further ado, here is my "Fact and Opinions" log on the first few days of April 2011 in the Sailor Moon Online Community.
04/02/11 - So here's the first article in the new section, the revival of Anti-SOS re-purposed for what appears to be SOS 2.0, Moon Chase. Since my rant at the beginning of the month had its second half directed at them, I'm going to just copy and paste that part of my rant here. I'm not going to bother editing it, consider that half of my rant the official launch of this new section! The joke mentioned below is an April Fool's Day joke that was done by Miss Dream that they posted on their site, stating Funimation had acquired the anime and Miss Dream was doing the translation. The first half was my response to the fans in general, the second half is in response to Moon Chase as is follows: To add, moving to a different subject still dealing with the joke but away from the people, it would appear a group of people is claiming the joke went too far due to how the fake PR was worded. And even go on as to claim that they are assisting Funimation in taking action. So let's bring back some memories and have a modern day Anti-SOS-like mini rant here (only by me this time and not Bob), that I guess could also be considered a semi-extension of an editorial I wrote last year. Fun all around! Let me tear this part by making a few points: 1) If Funimation, Kodansha, or any other potential company, felt that what was done was over the line, I very highly doubt they would enlist the help of a small fansite. They are big companies with their own legal teams to do their work, and could easily find and contact those associated with that joke. It only takes a quick Google search to find the original site it was posted on, and from there their legal teams can easily obtain the necessary information to contact whoever they need to. Them using a fansite to do such a thing is a joke, and what makes this even funnier, is the fact that one of the criticisms of the fake PR was the mention of Funimation teaming with the Miss Dream fansite. Contradiction much? 2) Curious to Funimation's thoughts, I posted on their facebook page under a link someone had posted to the fake PR. I mentioned my association with Miss Dream (I am a part of their staff even though I had minimal involvement in the joke, I just knew it was happening), and outright asked if the company had an issue with it, and requested to be contacted if they did so we could make amends. Funimation does watch and respond to comments there, as of yet I have not gotten a response. I will update if I do. 3) I also went to Funimation's forums. I found a thread where the fake PR was linked and quoted. All that happened was a moderator locking the thread when the day changed from the 1st to the 2nd. So yeah, I'm done for now.
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